FireFighters, Ok in the beginning i sided with them and in some way still sympathise... but enough is enough. Still striking , not accepting pay rises refusing to even talk, if I did this at work would I be there? NO! Better still if one of my staff did the same I'd get rid of them immediately. Haven't we got other more serious problems at the moment, like avoiding war with Iraq? Sorry firepeople yes you need more money but your 'representitives' are not helping you get it.